Medical Provider Liens

Highlights of the new Medicaid Subrogation lien statute after Wos v EMA Supreme Court Case

I'm a little late posting this new statute on my blog because I was so involved in getting the new Medicaid subrogation statute trimmed down and written in a way that it would be workable for trial lawyers.  These changes were the result of the US Supreme Court Ruling in Wos v EMA issued March 20, 2013.

The Governor signed the new bill incorporating the holding of Wos on July 18, 2013.  The bill is effective immediately.  You can view House Bill 982, in final mark-up version here:  House Bill 982 

Here are the things we KEPT in the old § 108A-57. Subrogation rights; withholding of information a misdemeanor:

  • Medicaid is still limited to a maximum of 100% of the lien OR One Third (1/3) of the gross settlement.
  • Medicaid still prorates within their 1/3 with unpaid medical providers asserting liens.
  • Payment by the lawyer of the 100% or 1/3 of the gross settelement is full and final payement of Medicaid's lien (but medical lien holders paid pro-rata still get are owed their balances pursuant to NCGS 44-49 and 50
Here are the NEW provisions that reflect the Supreme Court's determination that our previous Medicaid statute was in conflict with Federal law:
  • Medicaid recipients can challenge the 1/3 or 100% lien by filing a Petition with a court of competant jurisdiction for "a determination of the portion of the beneficiary's gross recovery that represents compensation for the Medicaid claim."
  • TIMING OF PETITION:  Those petitions must be filed within 30 days of all parties signing a settlement agreement OR court approval of the settlement OR a judgment being issued.
  • The Court will conduct an evidentiary hearing and may consider any factors it deems just and reasonable in determining the allocation of the settlement.
  • The burden of proof is on the petitioner to prove by "clear and convincing evidence" that Medicaid is demanding too large a portion of the settlement.

One other excellent part of the new statute says Medicaid can compromise the liens at any time:  

(a3) Notwithstanding the presumption arising pursuant to subsection (a1) of this section, the medical assistance beneficiary and the Department may reach an agreement on the portion of the recovery that represents compensation for the Medicaid claim. 

In the past, Medicaid took the position they could not negotiate their lien with recipients.  This new portion allows for that negotiation to occur at any time, even before a petition is filed.

Chris Nichols

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Can a hospital seek a medical lien if the bills were submitted to workers compensation in NC?

I received a question by email and it is a good one so I'm going to post the question and the answer:

Can a medical provider claim a  lien under NCGS 44-49  if the medical bills have been paid by the workers compensation carrier prior to injured worker pursuing a third part claim against a tortfeasor?

Worker was injured, workers comp. paid his medical bills at the local hospital.  A case was pursued against the negligent third party and we just received a lien notification letter from the hospital.

Can they do this?

My answer:

No.  A workers compensation (WC) medical payment is a "payment in full."  The hospital submitted to WC, WC paid what is the allowable expense and the hospital has to write off the remainder.  They don't get to double bill or bill for the unpaid portion.

I would write the hospital a letter asking them to set out in writing what what the total charges are, what they have been paid in the past, and what they are asking from your client now.  

 

Get that in writing.  
The follow up with a letter to the department that claimed the lien and make sure you copy one of the Medical Dcotors in charge with the following laws:
A medical provider’s reimbursement is limited to the maximum amount approved in the NCIC Medical Fee Schedule, unless the provider has contracted with the insurer for a different amount. If neither the fee schedule nor a contractual fee applies, the maximum reimbursement allowed is the usual, customary, and reasonable charge for the service.
N.C.G.S. §97‐26(c)
N.C.G.S. §97‐90(e) governs this issue and states:
“A health care provider shall not pursue a private claim against an employee for all or part of the costs of medical treatment provided to the employee by the provider unless the employee’s claim or the treatment is finally adjudicated not to be compensable or the employee fails to request a hearing after denial of liability by the employer.”
N.C.G.S. §97‐88.3(c) establishes penalties for medical providers who improperly pursue private claims against employees:
“A health care provider who knowingly charges or otherwise holds an employee financially responsible for the cost of any services provided for a compensable injury under this Article is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.”
That's straight out of the North Carolina Medical Society guide:  http://www.ncmedsoc.org/non_members/project_sustain/workerscomp_faq.pdf
I'm thinking that when faced with criminal liability, the hospital will about face on this one.
And of course, if  the bill was never submitted to or paid by WC, then I think they can claim a lien.  Though if they breached their duty to submit to WC, then they may just be completely out of luck.
Don't forget that WC does have a lien for the medical bills they paid.
Chris Nichols
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Attorney fees and Medicaid lien cap in North Carolina personal injury cases

Just had a great straight forward question about the interaction of Medicaid Liens, Attorney Fees, and medical provider liens pursuant to NCGS 44-49-50.

QUESTION:  Is Medicaid's lien capped at one third of liability proceeds received or half of what is left over after attorney's fees?  In other words, if I am pro-rating a Medicaid lien with 44-49 liens and my fee is 25%, are they still sharing a third or are they sharing 37.5%?

ANSWER:  Medicaid gets no more than 1/3 of the total settlement.  Your attorney fees are irrelevant to Medicaid's share.   The most Medicaid can get is 1/3 of the settlement, even if you charge only 1 dollar as a fee.
 
Medicaid will prorate with NCGS 44-49/50 liens within their 1/3 share.  But remember that paying the parorata share of the 44-49/50 liens does not extinguish the balance of the medical bill.  The client still owes the balance after the prorata share unless you negotiate a "final payment"  compromise with the mediacl provider.  44-49/50 simply act as as a way to get the lawyer out of the middle and get the provider some money before they have to turn to a collection action to get it.
 
The 1/3 (or Medicaid's portion thereof) DOES take care of Medicaid, in full.

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Chris Nichols

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Medicaid v. State Employees v. Medical Provider Liens: An Epic Battle

I recently received a great question from an attorney regarding the interplay of Medicaid, State Employee Helath Plan, and Medical Provider Liens.  With the recent developments in Medicaid subrogation law (The SCOTUS decision in Ahlborn and North Carolina Supreme Court ruling in Ezell) and the "new" amended statute for the State employee Health Lien, lawyers are left scratching their heads on hoow to address the competing liens of these entities.

The Question:

We recently settled a case on behalf of a minor.  There is a Medicaid, a SEHP and a hospital lien.  Medicaid lien is much greater than the other two, but payment in full of all three would be less than 1/3 of the total net proceeds to the minor. 

By way of example (not actual numbers): Assume a $100,000 settlement and attorney fees and costs of $30,000.  Liens total $30,000.  $15,000 Medicaid, $10,000 SEHP and $5,000 Medical providers.  Here's the catch: parent's claim had run prior to suit being brought, thus the entire settlement was for minor's pain and suffering, future lost wages, and future medical expenses.  Under Ahlborn it would seem that Medicaid has no right of recovery (a percentage of nothing is nothing) but that the SEHP and Medical Providers would get paid in full.

Have you seen an NC case like this go through the system post-Ahlborn or has the scenario been discussed at any of the meetings you have attended?

MY Answer:
You win the award for "best law school exam question on liens"!

No case like yours has come forward yet, but I was expecting one.  The folks at SEHP were sort of surprised when I told them this would happen, they seemed to think that if you had SEHP ALL your bills would be paid.  They never thought about people losing jobs, losing insurance coverage, etc.

MEDICAID
The analysis should start with Ahlborn.  Ahlborn tells us that Medicaid can not claim repayment from any portion of a settlement not apportioned to medical payments.  Clearly, the settlement in this case has no component of medical bills because the medical bill claim was that of the parents, and the statute of limitations for the parents claim (and therefore Medicaid's derivative claim) had run before the suit was filed.  The only possible argument that Medicaid could make would be to argue that the parents "assigned" the right of collection to Medicaid upon the child's receipt of Medicaid benefits under 108A-57.  As is noted in a recent publication by John Saxon at the UNC School of Government:

It is clear that both statutes involve the recovery of Medicaid payments from third parties who are liable to Medicaid beneficiaries. G.S. 108A-57, however, uses the term "subrogation" to define the state Medicaid agency's rights against third parties while G.S. 108A-59 defines the State's right as one arising by virtue of "assignment." Subrogation and assignment, though, are distinct legal concepts. So, it is not entirely clear whether the State's claim against a third party is a claim based on subrogation or a claim based on assignment, whether the State may assert a claim based on subrogation and assignment, whether the State must elect to pursue its claim based on subrogation or assignment, and whether the scope of the State's rights under G.S. 108A-59 is coextensive with, broader than, or narrower than the scope of its right of subrogation under G.S. 108A-57. Nor is it clear whether the "pro rata" and "one-third cap" provisions of G.S. 108A-57 apply if the State's claim is based on an assignment under G.S. 108A-59 rather than subrogation under G.S. 108A-57.

So at the outset, we have the argument that Medicaid has NO lien or right of subrogation pursuant to Ahlborn.  The Ezell case, of course, is directly contradictory to this, with Judge Steelman's dissent at the Court of Appeals (adopted per curiam by NCSC)saying:

Notwithstanding any other provisions of the law, to the extent of payments under this Part, the State, or the county providing medical assistance benefits, shall be subrogated to all rights of recovery, contractual or otherwise, of the beneficiary of this assistance, or of the beneficiary's personal representative, heirs, or the administrator or executor of the estate, against any person. . . .

N.C. Gen. Stat. § 108A-57(a) (2005) (emphasis added).

The above language contemplates a broad right of subrogation, which is indicated by the reference to "all rights of recovery." Subrogation is not limited to tort recovery, as the statute expressly covers contractual rights or "otherwise." See State v. Shade, 115 N.C. 757, 759, 20 S.E. 537, 537 (1894) (noting that when the words "or otherwise," follows an explicit example in a statute, the legislature intends to include every other manner of fulfilling the purpose of the statute, for example here, recovery, no matter what might be the attendant circumstances). The causation language discussed by the majority is from the portion of the statute dealing with the duty of a plaintiff's attorney to distribute settlement proceeds to DMA, not from the portion of the statute defining the scope of DMA's right of subrogation, which is set forth verbatim above.

STATE EMPLOYEE HEALTH PLAN
The next matter to address is the lien of the State Employee's Health Plan.   Of course, the SEHP lien will attach to the proceeds regardless of whether they are for medical bills or not:

§ 135-40.13A. Liability of third person; right of subrogation; right of first recovery.

(a) Whenever the Plan pays benefits for hospital, surgical, medical, or prescription drug expenses, with respect to any Plan member, the Plan shall be subrogated, to the extent of any payments under the Plan, to all of the Plan member's rights of recovery against liable third parties, regardless of the entity or individual from whom recovery may be due.

Though, one might argue that the logic of Ahlborn would apply and SEHP would not have a lien on the minor's damages (though it seems the statute allows the lien to attach to any proceeds).

The Plan's lien language gives SEHP the "right of first recovery" which would seemingly place SEHP in a higher priority than Medicaid, though Medicaid could argue that because they are federally funded, the state law would be preempted.

The Plan has the right to first recovery on any amounts so recovered, whether by the Plan or the Plan member, and whether recovered by litigation, arbitration, mediation, settlement, or otherwise.

The Plan's subrogation right is limited to recovering no more than 50% of the net settlement after "reasonable" attorney fees and costs (presumed to be 1/3) have been paid.

There is currently no guidance on how SEHP would "compete" with Medicaid if both have valid liens.  SEHP told me during our meeting that they were "working with the AG's office and Medicaid" on a way to handle this type of situation.  My best guess is that if both liens are valid, Medicaid and SEHP would devise some sort of pro-rata sharing.

SEHP and Medical Liens
SEHP claims to have priority over all Medical Provider liens.  Thus, because SEHP's lien formula is almost exactly the same as the Medical Provider lien formula, if SEHP's lien is equal to 50% of the NET settlement (after reasonable collection costs) then the Medical providers would not be entitled to any payment under the statute (though their balances would still be owed by the client).

If SEHP's lien was LESS than 50% of the NET (after reasonable costs of collection) then the question would first be to determine if there is a valid Medicaid lien.  If there is a valid Medicaid lien, AND Medicaid does NOT have to share with SEHP, then the Medicaid and Medical provider liens would be prorated up to 1/3 of the settlement (for Medicaid) or 50% of the net after Attorney Fees (for Medical providers).

MEDICAL LIENS
Finally, you have medical liens under NCGS 44-49 and 44-50. Medicaid must share "pro-rata" with any unpaid medical providers pursuant to the requirements of:

§ 108A-57. Subrogation rights: withholding of information a misdemeanor

(a)  . . . Any attorney retained by the beneficiary of the assistance shall, out of the proceeds obtained on behalf of the beneficiary by settlement with, judgment against, or otherwise from a third party by reason of injury or death, distribute to the Department the amount of assistance paid by the Department on behalf of or to the beneficiary, as prorated with the claims of all others having medical subrogation rights or medical liens against the amount received or recovered, but the amount paid to the Department shall not exceed one-third of the gross amount obtained or recovered. (emphasis added)

This was discussed in the previous section.  Further, SEHP claims that they do NOT pro-rate with medical providers within the 50% of Net after attorney fees limitation.

Thus, I see two scenarios that could result from your case:

1)  Medicaid Valid, SEHP Valid, Medical Liens Valid
In this scenario Medicaid and SEHP would first need to determine if one or the other had priority in payment or if they prorate within the 1/3 limitation set by medicaid.  If SEHP has first priority, then the question would be does Medicaid get 1/3 of what is left after SEHP is paid or are they limited to no more than 1/3 of the total settlement minus what SEHP has been paid.  Medical providers would receive the remainder, pro-rated with Medicaid up to the 1/3 limit of medicaid or the 50% after attorney fees of Medical Provider liens.
2.  Medicaid INVALID, SEHP Valid, Medical Liens Valid
If our courts apply Ahlborn as written, then Medicaid should have no lien on the minor child's pain and suffering or future medicals recovery.  Then SEHP would recover it's full lien, up to 50% of the net after "reasonable costs of collection" and then Medical providers would share among themselves, pro-rata, up to 50% of the net after attorney fees. (Which is essentially the same 1/3 that SEHP claims).  Medical providers could argue that their share should be 50% of the NEt AFTER SEHP is paid, but I don't see any real basis for that argument.
I think that you will probably need to litigate this matter.  In that regard, you need to give Medicaid notice of all hearings.  My guess is that you would make these arguments at the minor settlement hearing and that Medicaid (AG) would need to participate.

If you have not read my posts on these issue on my Blog, you might want to check it out: Ahlborn Resources
Chris Nichols
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